I don't know the math. Aaron Judge is on pace for 65+. He's one of the most famous baseball players ever. 1961 was the same season that Mantle missed time due to the botched steroid injection he received during the season. Ill gladly disagree with the author, he was not alive to enjoy what that did for baseball! The number is really blurry. I've always been a big Maris fan, but don't see how it would be possible to make it into the Hall after an 11-year career. We are delighted that you'd like to resume your subscription. Maris doesnt have incredible career numbers 275 homers and 851. homers in 61. Not sure without looking it up. Roger Maris trotted out the historic home run. 61 on the last day of the season. All though looking at the teammates that Roger played with he was a key player on the Yankees and Cardinals. He was a great player for the few seasons he played. Kirk Gibson: In a season that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened said Vin Scully as a hobbling Gibson circled the bases after hitting his game-winning home run for the Dodgers in the first game of the 1988 World Series. I think Mays and Aaron and others may also have hit 40 or more. And, just as importantly to me, inducting Maris would be an indirect way to acknowledge that not only did Maris set that record, he holds that record to this day. Gil Hodges, Roger Maris, Minnie Mioso among 10 on Hall of Mickey Morgan| Koufax was clearly one of the best arms in his prime, but his career was so brief, especially considering he didn't hit his stride until it was nearly halfway over! Sarcasm in text is tough. Bunch of players ahead of Maris in the HOF discussion. I think Burns says Maris wished he had never broken it because of the response from the public and probably other players too. I hate that Golden Gloves are just throw away facts when considering the HOF. Thanks for reading and the comment, Bob. Roger was MVP in 1960 because Yankees finished 2nd in 1959 with Bauer and Woodling in RF and Roger helped Yankees win AL pennant again. If Aaron Judge eclipses him, itll be quite an accomplishment. Article Source: Nobody seated in the upper deck. Mickey and Roger became friends and continued that friendship even after the both retired after the '68 season. You may change your billing preferences at any time in the Customer Center or call Elroy Face:He went 18-1 out of the bullpen for the 1959 Pirates for a winning percentage of .947, best in history (with at least 10 decisions). I admit I wanted Mickey to break the record, but after he was out of the race I was routing for Roger. En route to his second MVP award, Maris hit a then-record of 61 home runs while driving 141 RBIs. Put them both in. Hank Aaron was such a tremendous talent that his movement into his mid-twenties, the first expansion, the move to Atlanta and the 1969 expansion blended together to create a huge prime. Maris hit 58 homers in the first 154 games (the length of the schedule when Babe Ruth set the single-season record), and finished with 61. The Hall of Fame Case for Roger Maris Baseball Egg Pitching for the old Boston Braves in 1944, he threw a three-hit complete game shutout in 58 pitches. Fans of Roger Maris were quick to respond to my column Sunday, In the video the right fielder looks like he's wearing the number 9. It's likely that nobody in baseball history hasn't cheated on this record. The only thing Roger Maris had going for him was a major record. His 1961 season was the best of his career, and one of the best seasons of all time. If Aaron Judge eclipses him, itll be quite an accomplishment. It takes decades often for the narratives to soften for the MLB HOF voting members to offer their "peace pipe" & get excellence recognized. Only 19,401 attended the game to see only the second man in baseball history to hit 60 home runs in one season. The defensive play of the Series, recalls Ralph Terry, the winning pitcher, in the excellent new biography, Roger Maris, Baseballs Reluctant Hero, by Tom Clavin and Danny Peary. Does he deserve to be in? The arguments against Maris include his struggles with durability and longevity, with his 1,463 games played being on the very low end for a candidate. Superb comment, Mark. @reelinintheyears said: Read21 hours ago | Lance Morrow, Article viewed iconAn icon to mark the viewed articles For a brief period of time, about four seasons, Maris was one of the ten best outfielders in baseball. But I hate it when people make accusations against someones legacy. All rights reserved. Roger Maris Claim to fame: This October will mark the 50th anniversary of Roger Mariss 61st home run in the 1961 season. It broke Babe Ruths 34-year single season record and stood another 37 years until Mark McGwire hit 70 home runs in 1998, and it remains the defining achievement for Maris. His Yankee teammates formed a human wall in front of the dugout, refusing to let him enter. Mickey Mantle was my hero. I don't talk to people about baseball. Should Roger Maris be considered for @nam812 said: His defense was quite good. Roger's uniform number 9 was retired by the New York Yankees. Unfortunately both Roger and Mickey had retired before I was born. To use an analogy in the sportscard world - I bought my most expensive card ever last year which was 3x more than I ever paid for a card. Roger Maris goes deep in the 3rd inning off Milt Pappas, a blast almost 400 feet into the bleachers in right field giving him 59 round trippers for the season, passing Jimmie Foxx and Hank Greenberg, but two short of breaking Babe Ruth's single season home run record. Why Isn't Roger Maris in the Baseball Hall of Fame? Why He played his final Major League game at age 34, retiring with a career .260/.345/.476 slash line. Should Roger Clemens Be Voted Into the Hall of Fame? I do not agree with every decision the Veterans Committee makes but I am appreciative there is a mechanism to get guys in after the Voters have spoken for 10 years time. Roger Maris was not the very personable Mickey Mantle type guy. Citing proof and linking to articles I am all for. That's 40 years of technological advances between the two. The commissioner, Ford Frick, refused to attend any of the games during his historic chase, and even decided to place the ridiculous asterisk in the record book. Two players who were incredibly famous for a few short years. He won one Gold Glove, and in 1967 he drove in seven runs in the World Series. Nothing like that in MLB since I've been watching baseball. He is still the single season non juiced HR record holder. Mazeroski, Jackie Robinson and even Koufax are a few that might be considered. When truck driver Sal Durante sought to give Maris the ball he had caught in the stands, the star declined, insisting that Durante should receive the bounty. They shared an apartment with Bob Cerv. Maybe I'm the last person on the planet who didn't know this. Aaron Judge is 6' 7 and over 280 lbs. He ranks 64th in BBRef WAR among right fielders. The camera probably wasn't supposed to capture the upper deck. Gil Hodges, Jim Kaat, Minnie Mioso and Tony Oliva were elected by the Golden Days Era Committee (1950-69), while Bud Fowler and Buck ONeil were chosen by the Early Baseball Era Committee (pre-1950), as announced on MLB Network. Personally, I regard Maris still to be baseballs season Home Run Leader, excluding Bonds, McGuire and Sosa. Aaron , Robinson , Clemente and Colavito were all great players but Maris was probably better as an overall defensive player, even than Clemente.Roger Maris, who won two Most Valuable Player Awards, primarily for his offense, was better at fielding, in my opinion than hitting. Tyler Kepner has covered the Yankees for The New York Times since 2002. I have wavered on this myself. Archived post. It's like the 1974 MVP races where there was no reason to vote for either winner. Stallard got Maris out in his first at bat. They had Players like Hack Wilson, Cardinal Red Schoendienst, Yankee shortstop Phil Rizzuto, and Philly Richie Ashburn. Maris has 1.325 hits in his 12-year career, which by the way, would be one of the shorter careers for a position player in the Hall of Fame. Yes I know Namath is already in. Roger Maris, Allie Reynolds fall short in Hall of Fame Similarly, at least in my opinion, Hank Aaron remains baseballs all time Home Run leader to this day, regardless of Bud Selig, who was complicit in the era of Not, who among Kaat, Parker, and Garvey should be in, but rather if we're considering players from that era why aren't we looking at Grich, Nettles, Bell, Randolph, Dwight Evans, or Reuschel? Maybe roger never makes it to the Hall, thats ok. Maris was a family man who played it straight on and off the field and treated the game with respect. Maybe that doesnt put him over the top, but it deserves more than a brief mention. But, Maris is way, way more famous than any baseball player not in the HOF, and he didn't get famous for having great teammates (although he did have great teammates), he got famous for breaking the most famous record not just in baseball, but in all of sports. He HAD an overall body of work. What I would like to see is retired players vote for induction in to the Hall of Fame. I'm sure he meant god. As a Yankee fan for 70 years, I applaud Bob Greenes Cheer on Judge but Dont Forget Maris (op-ed, Oct. 7). Maybe, the HOF should create a gallery of MVPS and longstanding major record holders( not to mention greatest defensive players and players who were chosen by their peers for All Star games or the current day Outstanding Player Award).Then, visitors.would better understand and appreciate great baseball, and Roger Maris would be well represented in the Hall. You will be charged Buffet lunch and guest speakers. For years I thought that breaking Ruths record all by itself should qualify him for the Hall, but you make a good argument. 1. He doesn't backpedal and turn or anything. Until the quality of recording improved and the introduction of the center field camera, practically all TV recordings of baseball give the appearance of a phantom ball - you can't see crap in these videos, it's all reactive like the trick play in "Little Big League". A kid grabbed his hand as he turned past first - Maris shook hands and then did the same thing with third base coach Frank Crosetti as he turned past third base and headed home. Around the same time, Commissioner Ford Frick ruled that an asterisk would be placed next to Maris' name in the record books if he broke the Babe's record after the 154th game of the season. It takes decades often for the narratives to soften for the MLB HOF voting members to offer their "peace pipe" & get excellence recognized. Hall of Fame Ford Frick was a sports writer and broadcaster before he became NL president in the late 30s and commissioner of baseball in the late 50s. Baseball seemed offended that someone dared to beat Ruths unparalleled feat. Readmore, The Yankees, the Mets, and Major League Baseball. Maris had three more chances that night to tie the Babe Ruth record. 2021-08-12. Reynolds pitched 10 dominant innings of one-run ball in Game 2, lifting New York to a 2-1 victory. Because except for a a couple seasons, he basically was average https://bleacherreport.com/articles/221894-the-king-without-a-crown-should-roger-maris-be-in-the-hall-of-fame. Maris received three or fewer votes from the 16-member committee appointed by the Hall of Fame to review a 10-candidate Golden Era ballot. I'm sure it lead to his career being so short. The Indians had a glut of outfielders in their organization and inexplicably ignored the 69 homers Maris hit in three seasons in their system. I enjoyed reading it. I also wouldn't mind seeing Mattingly, Murph and KHernandez either. I disagree. Nearly all my baseball knowledge comes from reading Beckett and trading sports cards when I was in junior high and high school. The selection of players for the Hall of Fame isnt always as simple as stats home runs, hits, RBI, victories. However, Roger was still five games ahead of the record pace by Ruth, whose 51st HR didn't come until his 139th game. Roger Maris remains one of the most celebrated names in baseball; he held the games most revered record for 37 years and won back-to-back MVPs. McGwire said that breaking the single season home run record was a gift from the guy upstairs. Just 2-3 great seasons and a few more really good seasons isnt enough. Others were glad I mentioned that Maris led the 1960s with World Series appearances seven, including four championships and that he was the most valuable player in 1960 and 1961. Over 1,463 games, Maris logged 195 doubles, 42 triples, 275 home runs and 850 RBIs. He If nothing else, Maris should at least have a spot in the Hall of Fame . Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence - Oscar Wilde. Be the first one to comment on this story. Why Hall of Fame Seems about right for the situation. Another thing about his 61 homers, seeing as how you criticize the players who broke it because they used steroids: Maris hit 61 in an expansion year with two new teams in the league. Maris was a two-time MVP saddled with the reputation of a slugger, and those 61 home runs hung around his neck like a bowling ball. I have read alot about baseball and the greats of the game. game in each of three others.). Maris received three or fewer votes from the 16-member committee appointed by the Hall of Fame to review a 10-candidate Golden Era ballot. A two-time Most Valuable Player (1960, 61) and seven-time All-Star, Maris starred from 1957-68 with the Indians, Athletics, Yankees and Cardinals. If you can consider players like Barry Bonds and others who are accused of cheating and using peds and other drugs to get an advantage than you should put players Roger Maris and Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame without hesitation. Of course I didnt but It would suck to be labeled a thief without any evidence. in fact, it puts me very much in mind of Brady Anderson in the mid 90s. Lou Clinton was the Red Sox right fielder that day. There is pretty clearly no ball being thrown or hit in this video. Meanwhile, in 1927, Babe Ruth hit his 48th and 49th homers in his 134th game. Aaron Judge is almost certainly on something, theyre just better about avoiding tests these days. it is entirely possible that Maris cheated on his way to 61 as it certainly was a statistical anomaly for him. Some fans disagreed with my saying Maris does not quite reach the standards of the Baseball Hall of Fame because of his modest batting average (.260), total home runs (275) and seasons (12), and my belief that only Does Roger Maris Belong in the Hall of Fame? - The New York But he actually only had five seasons where he qualified for the batting title. The Veteran's Committee elected former Pirates second baseman Bill Mazeroski in to the Hall. The Hall of Fame Case for Roger Maris : r/baseball - Reddit Granted, it has been a few years since I have been to the HOF, but I would argue that, sans a plaque, Maris is as much in the HOF as some of those with plaques. He doesnt really have a long peak either. Accomplishments after that date, the Frick ruling read, would be designated by an asterisk. Readmore, When asked what he has done thus far in the off-season, Mets General Manager Sandy Alderson responded with a joke. Why isn't Roger Maris in the hall of fame And they're standing up. You may cancel your subscription at anytime by calling I wouldn't mind players getting into the HOF for extraordinary accomplishments.. Maris, Mattingly, Munson, Garvey, Dave Parker, Dale Murphy (another back to back MVP winner like Maris was), Keith Hernandez ~ all of them MVP's ~ all of them huge stars in their time. 500 homer's and 3k hits arent the only qualifications certainly. I'm sure tons of reporters covered the story. I wouldn't mind players getting into the HOF for extraordinary accomplishments.. Maris, Mattingly, Munson, Garvey, Dave Parker, Dale Murphy (another back to back MVP winner like Maris was), Keith Hernandez ~ all of them MVP's ~ all of them huge stars in their time. 500 homer's and 3k hits arent the only qualifications certainly. Its really hard to say he belongs as a Hall of Fame enshrinement, rather that event will keep his name in the Hall of Fame for his accomplishment Richard Lee-Ching (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Dan Holmes is the author of three books about baseball, including Ty Cobb: A Biography. This is manifestly not true. While the Yankees lost the World Series in seven games to the Pirates, Maris hit two homers. Why is Roger Maris not in the Baseball Hall of Fame? Mariss career stats will continue to be evaluated by future veterans committees, so for those pulling for him, theres always a possibility. The excitement was building because Roger was six ahead of Ruth's record total. In the movie The Natural, and I know this isn't a good source, they talk about how some reporters would write the stories on the games before the games were even played. Successful dealings with Wcsportscards94558, EagleEyeKid, SamsGirl214, Volver, DwayneDrain, Oaksey25, Griffins, Cardfan07, Etc. Please logout and login again. With all due respect, I still think Mariss "I hated to see the record broken," Phil Rizzuto said. Read22 hours ago | Mark Penn, Article viewed iconAn icon to mark the viewed articles However, he had many skills that were hidden. RSVP at Plays4pars@aol.com. Collectors.com | He earned a football scholarship to Oklahoma, but didnt like campus life and left in his freshman year to sign a contract with the Cleveland Indians. . He was critical for 5 pennants and 2 world series for Yankees. "Roger Maris was as good a man and as good a ballplayer as there ever was. It broke Babe Ruths 34-year single ", Roger Maris hit his 61st home run exactly 61 years ago today in 1961. Roger Maris A HOF career should involve more than just one great year (with exigent circumstances, expansion weakened pitching) and two good years. He did it while being a teammate of the iconic Mickey Mantle and wearing the famed pinstripe uniform of the greatest team in sports. Read22 hours ago | Allan Ripp, Article viewed iconAn icon to mark the viewed articles His stats, 275 career HR, .260 batting average, and 38.2 WAR are nowhere near numbers to qualify for the Hall. He was willing to go to any length to ensure that it did not happen to the point of stating Ruth's record woudl stand as it took place in 154 games whereas Maris needed 161 games. I thnk Roger should b in the Hall. in which I wrote that his 61 home runs looked better than ever after a half century.
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